Re: Guilty as Charged . . .

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Re: Guilty as Charged . . .

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Traffic is up, listings are up and so are the scammers, I don't participate in all the fora that are out there
but out of the handful I subscribe to I have to say that scammers seem to like this forum more than the others.

I don't want to say or even suggest that this is a direct consequence to the "make me an offer" posts, but certainly
in a place like this where there are maybe less rules and restrictions than in other places, one needs to be a little
more careful.

To be perfectly honest I am not aware of any other fora that allows For Sale adverts without a sale price, and from
what you have outlined so far, I really do not see the value of a sales tool like the a.m. adverts, at least for the buyers.

I think even a child understands how the sellers can benefit from this, but is it of any value for the whole of the community?

Now if your answer, as it appears to be, is: the Forum is mine, I make the rules, then we don't even need to have this discussion,
one participates, or not, end of story, but when I look at this thread I get the feeling that nobody would really miss this type
of sales posts if they were to be done away with.

Guilty as charged, more or less . . . but I'm still not sure why
: I need to pay eBay or auction house fees, when they provide very
: little protection to the buyers. With all due humility, I will
: rely on my own reputation for integrity / visibility, rather
: than paying a third party to provide comfort or provenance
: (charging high fees all along the way). Shown below is the
: Autavia that Auctionata sold a few weeks ago at 62,000 euro . .
: . what did this auction house provide to the buyer, other than
: an $5,000 to $10,000 batch of parts for the next project
: watches?

: I am happy to provide this Chronotrader platform for those who
: might like to use it. I am happy to entertain suggestions as to
: how we might improve it. [And, yes, we are working on some ways
: to rid the place of the scammers.]

: Listings are up; traffic is up; I believe that satisfaction is good
: . . . so I'm not sure that we need to eliminate the "best
: offer" or informal auctions.

: Jeff

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