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I would urge everyone to insist on using an escrow service. There are many available online and the fee is nominal considering the service. I have tried to purchase watches about a dozen times on this site and EVERY time it has been a scammer. They all insist on a wire transfer and they all refuse escrow services for a completely nonsensical reason. With an escrow service, the watch isn't sent to you until the escrow has the money, and the money isn't forwarded to the seller until you can confirm the authenticity of the watch. There really is no reason for a legitimate seller to refuse the service and it's an immediate red flag if they do.

: While the lack of email history isn't definitive, it is indicative.
: It's the first step in a history check. The syntax of the ads
: are also give-aways. References can also mean NOTHING because
: those can be COMPLETELY made up. Not everyone has eBay and
: besides, these are hackers and scammers are able to scam people
: into taking wires transfer and then send the funds to another
: account. You think it's hard to get them to give up their ebay
: accounts? (the answer is "no"). Tagged pictures aren't
: anything because the scammer may have a good replica of the
: watch or the actual watch (but don't plan to actually sell it to
: you. Plus they also do "middle man" schemes where they
: act as a buyer and have a legitimate seller tag the photo for
: them to "prove" to them that the authentic seller
: isn't a scammer. I've uncovered a few of these not to long ago.
: As for Skype/Hangouts/Facetime, they're just say they don't have
: it. There are other means and methods I use which I won't
: discuss here for obvious reasons. BTW, in case you don't know, a
: lot of these watch scams are used to get funds for other, larger
: scams.

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