The dial looks good but the case is not now, nor will
it ever be Heuer.

As for Heuer experts, they are far and few in between.

I have no doubt the seller belives what he is saying, but
at the end of the day a little knowledge is dangerous.

Cheers

Rob

: This guy just refuses to admit any misinformation on his end!
: He refuses to discuss the case discrepency focusing soley on the
: dial which, very well may be authentic. However, we all know the
: case is not native to this dial. To add insult to injury, now he
: is disparaging onthedash. Here is what he said in his latest
: response to me:

: "I am actually already fully aware of onthedash.com and
: know it to be containing inaccurate information. Unfortunately
: you can't take everything you see on the internet as fact. I
: have physically inspected the dial with a microscope and found
: no evidence of tampering or refinishing. The Autavia stamp as
: well as the Heuer stamp are both original to the dial without a
: doubt. The only possible way this could be not original would be
: if the Autavia dial were matched with a genuine vintage Heuer
: case and movement and it just so happened to precisely fit with
: perfection and match the rotating bezel. This I find to be
: highly improbable and I fail to see the purpose of such an
: endeavor. I have presented you with nothing but facts so please
: refrain from personal attacks or insults in your future
: correspondence. Thank you. "

: I guess he didn't like my mention of his possible need to
: visit an optometrist were he not able to see the case
: discrepency between his watch and any real variant of the
: Autavia case. Am I wrong here guys (and gals) regarding his
: unusual "Autavia" case? Below is my response to his
: previous correspondence:

: "You continue to avoid the question of the case issue in
: your correspondences. Why is that? The case discrepency is the
: defining characteristic that says your watch is a fake Autavia.
: Plain and simple. No Autavia EVER had that style case. I am not
: insulting you, I am merely pointing out the real facts. It is
: very possible that your dial did come from an Autavia (it indeed
: looks authentic) but it was never native to the case it is now
: contained in. We call that a re-casing. Yet you still insist on
: ignoring this erroneous case issue. Shame on you! Onthedash.com
: is the foremost authority on vintage Heuers so to insult Jeff
: Stein's website as containing inaccurate information is merely a
: weak attempt by you to imply your "facts" are more
: accurate. They are not. Onthedash.com has a close relationship
: with Tag Heuer as well as many, many other Heuer experts
: including the former head of US service for Heuer/Tag Heuer who
: is THE U.S. authority on vintage Heuers from the 1950's to
: 1980's. Jeff has authored articles on Heuer published in IW
: Magazine and, several posters on this site have also written
: articles published by other watch magazines throughout the
: world. They are renowned as the experts when it comes to vintage
: Heuers and all are Heuer collectors too who are intimately
: familiar with the variants of all Heuer models. Until you
: re-examine the case your "Autavia" is cased in, you
: have absolutely no credibility regarding your attacks on those
: who disagree with you. I stand by my earlier remarks, sorry! If
: you can not see the difference in case styles between authentic
: Autavia's and, your example, then you are living in an imaginary
: world. I can't believe you don't see the obvious difference and
: the fact you pointed me to two websites that corroborate what I
: am trying to point out is pretty incredulous to me!"
: