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Mark, as usual has a far more eloquent grasp...

...of the English language.

As I always say, "Something's only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it"

David H

: ...scrutiny a Heuer ever could be. Some of the most informed
: collectors in the world, from Europe, the US, the Far East,
: Australasia and more, checking a watch for all its details and
: comparing it to the prices they have seen elsewhere. No fees
: means no compunction to list a bit under the desired amount to
: attain a sale, so prices might tend to be on the higher side but
: typically I find them more reasonable than, say, Chrono 24 to
: give one example.

: Everyone is welcome to express an opinion here, and I hope we make
: allowances for a number of different mother tongues, but when
: someone comes along with a potentially controversial opinion,
: it's only to be expected that there is some pushback and
: questioning of that statement. Especially using examples that
: don't match with other readers' recent experience. For me, to
: get a Silverstone under €3000, you need to go back to before
: the re-issue and probably to 2009 or earlier. To get a good one
: since then under that is fortunate; to suggest they are
: routinely under that is disingenuous.

: When I see watches making four or five times what I paid for them
: not all that long ago, I don't launch into a rant about the
: crazy prices, nor do I rush to cash in. Instead I smile drily,
: happy that I still want the watches for the same reasons I
: bought them for originally and look forward to interesting input
: from new members of the community. There was a time when I would
: never have thought to pay over €1000 for a second gen Carrera
: - now there is little choice, and the better ones are more
: frequently clearing €2000. Others priced over that stick
: around without selling in some instances, but then nobody is
: forced to buy, here or anywhere else.

: As I said on the main forum recently, it's not a competition over
: who can amass the most watches for the least money, it's a
: passion. Perhaps everyone's motivation is different but we
: should at least allow for all those different reasons.

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