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Re: Here is My Definition of "New Old Stock"

I agree but you have to take into account the sheer weight of put together (Monacos in particular) on the market.

The alternative is to just apply mint to all the put together watches however obviously you would still rsther have a mint original than a mint put together.

The REAL question is misdescription by some sellers, that is what i think Davids original point was...

: Jeff, your definition is the correct one. New Old Stock means
: exactly that, an item that has sat on a dealers shelf, totally
: unused for, perhaps, many years. Its "New", nere used,
: but "Old Stock". As long as a buyer of such an item
: never wears that watch, it is still NOS, until they use it.

: I rebuild (and use) old classic vacuum tube audio amps as a hobby.
: In order to keep these units running, I have amassed a large
: supply of New Old Stock tubes ("valves" to our British
: friends) that I have purchased from old electronic supply
: houses, TV/radio repair shops, flea markets and hamfests over
: the past 20 years. The elements in tubes are contained in a
: vacuum so as long as you never use them, they should perform as
: new once you do. "Slightly" used tubes are NOT NOS,
: period. There are purveyors out there who do try to pass used
: tubes off as NOS. Especially since certain brands and types of
: tubes are very, very valuable. Fortunately there are ways to
: usually determine the status of a tube by visual inspection of
: the "getter" (which burns off extraneous gases in the
: glass envelope when turned on) which shows browning of the
: silver (of the getter) and by testing with a tube tester. Like
: watches, visual inspection is part of the key determining NOS
: status for tubes. As another example, NOS audio equipment would
: need to be in a sealed carton, or opened once for inspection but
: never plugged in and used. That stuff, by the way, is incredibly
: rare.

: Oops, back to watches. There should be no grey area when it comes
: to New Old Stock status, in my opinion. For a great example of
: real NOS watches, go to Old World Jewelers web-site where you
: will see truly New Old Stock Breitling watches from 1969 to
: 1975. While these watches no longer have their original
: packaging (thrown away when the watches were put in safety
: deposit boxes in the late 70's) they have never been used, still
: have the purple seal on their casebacks (with original prices in
: CHF) and are physically flawless. They have also never serviced
: these watches and do recommend that you have that done by your
: favorite watchmaker once you buy one from them. As a disclaimer,
: I am in no way affiliated with those folks. I am simply a
: customer who has purchased 3 of these watches from these folks
: over the past 2 years. The model 2105 (caliber 12) SuperOcean I
: bought from them in 2007 incredibly runs flawlessly even though
: I haven't had it serviced yet (I know, probably not a good idea
: but it keeps great time and is very quiet mechanically). Its
: serial number dates it to 1969 (1316XXX). Go to their site for
: the story on how they acquired the watches back in the late
: 90's. (www.oldworldjewelers.com) I hope its okay to mention that
: site, Jeff.
: Put together watches with new, never used parts should be noted as
: (in my opinion) "watches newly assembled with New Old Stock
: parts" if in fact that's what they are. "Newly
: assembled" are the key words that MUST be mentioned, again
: in my opinion. They do not qualify to be called NOS watches.
: That must be reserved for never worn or used, originally
: manufactured watches (or any other item). Just my two cents.
: Steve

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