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Re: I will take the rolex over an AP and a Patek

I have seen a patek movement, it is nice but it needs too much TLC. You want a prefect dress watch, then buy the rolex cellini prince reedition with cal 1620. Patek are fragile watches but nice watches. They are perfect if you want a very immediate good investment. You always win a lot of money if you sell a patek after some years. And did you ever heard of the bubblebacks rolexs with enamel cloisonné dials and about the moonphase-date calendar oysters? They are rarer, better quality and far more expensive than Pateks. There were also a serie of vintage Omega semaster, constellation and deville with enamel cloisonné dials for sale in the past which were more expensive and better quality than the Patek.
Patek is not for everyone. I would go with Parmigiani Fleurier, Speake Marin, De Witt or Philippe Dufour which have nothing to envy to Patek. But to each their own.

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