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My Comments, Posted on Perpetualle

Here is the comment that I have posted on the Perpetualle blog [let me point out that my comments may not show up for a while and may not be in exactly these words, as the comments are subject to "moderation"]:

    Interesting information and good reporting. I operate the vintage Heuer website, www.OnTheDash.com, and a related discussion forum and have been following the vintage Heuers for the last 10 years. I also keep an eye on developments at TAG-Heuer, especially when they are doing the re-issues, commemorative editions, etc.

    While I would agree that the introduction of the Caliber 1887 seems to have suffered from a PR or marketing blunder, I believe that their decision to use the Seiko platform and adapt it for TAG-Heuer's purposes is a fantastic solution. They can develop their own caliber, on a white board, and we will wait years and pay thousands more for each of the watches. Instead, they have taken a fantastic Seiko movement, and they will improve it. In my view, a very efficient, effective way of proceeding . . . an elegant solution to the problem of sourcing movements. They will have reliable, proven movements, suited for high-volume production, on favorable economics.

    In terms of Jean-Christophe's going onto the discussion forums, do a search of our vintage Heuer forum -- http://www.chronocentric.com/forums/heuer/ -- and you will see that Jean-Christophe has made several appearances on our forum. He has engaged in dialog with the vintage enthusiasts, to share his ideas and to seek ours. So he is not a stranger to the discussion forums (though his visits to WatchUSeek may not have been in the plans for the roll-out of the new movement.). I applaud these visits to our forum, as they reflect genuine dialog and interest in the vintage community.

    Here's a prediction: In five years, watch enthusiasts will have forgotten the problematic press releases and messaging associated with the roll-out of the Caliber 1887 (though some journalists and forum junkies will still be giggling). The watch enthusiasts will be celebrating a great line-up of TAG-Heuer chronographs, powered by an awesome movement, that was made better by TAG-Heuer.

    Of course, I will extend a warm welcome if you will reciprocate with a visit to our vintage Heuer discussion forum.

    Cheers,

    Jeff Stein
    Atlanta, Georgia

Bottom line: The approach to the new movement seems brilliant; the execution of the roll-out / announcement seems to have been flawed . . . which will matter more, five years from now?

Jeff

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: Have a look at this piece, on Perpetuelle.com, suggesting that
: TAG-Heuer "shot itself in the foot" with the launch of
: the new movement --

:
: http://blog.perpetuelle.com/index.php/watch-news/tag-heuer-shoots-itself-in-the-foot-on-tag-heuer-caliber-1887-launch/

: I have not read it in detail, but it looks like an interesting
: report.

: Jeff

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Messages In This Thread

Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Mr. Babin, you're posting here is much-appreciated ...
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Jean-Christophe: Thank You for This Message
My money is on a Carrera *NM*
Re: Faithful repro of Carrera or Pvd Monza.
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Named after the year Heuer has introduced pignon oscillant? *NM*
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My Comments, Posted on Perpetualle
Re: My Comments, Posted on Perpetuelle
Hello OnTheDash, and...
Thanks for the Message, Kyle
. . . and In WorldTempus.Com
Re: . . . and In WorldTempus.Com
Who Can Translate (or Paraphrase) the French
Re: Who Can Translate (or Paraphrase) the French
Your translation is better than Microsoft's "Bing" version!!
Merci beaucoup! Machine will never replace humans.. LOL *NM*
Post Questions About Cal 1887; Then We Can Ask JCB to Visit
Possible configurations
Marketing asset too
cain and abel?
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
Jean-Christophe Says that Registers are at "3" and "9"
Re: Jean-Christophe Says that Registers are at "3" and "9"
Great Reporting, David!! Well Done, Jean-Christophe!!
Thanks Jeff
Seiko Flightmaster
Seiko based 1887
Re: Controversy About the New TAG-Heuer Mvmnt: Cal 1887
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